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By Spencer Clarke (UK)
I only converted to MP3 players at all in 2006. Started with a Zen Sleek, which was pretty damn good, but at 20gb, completely full. So I bit the bullet and went for a refurbed 60gb Ipod from Amazon Warehouse Deals. The first thing to say is that Amazon Warehouse was superb. Not a mark on the Ipod - looked exactly as new. And at just 160 GBP cheaper than you can buy a 30gb in the high street!
As people have said, nothing much in the box. So I bought a Logic 3 dock for 17.99 - half the price of an Apple Dock + remote, but with fantastic functionality, and a charger in the box.
Armed with my dock, and loaded up through itunes (agree with other reviewers - very clunky and slow in its latest incarnation) have now got it hooked up to my stereo, and I love it! Easier to use than the Zen, sound quality great, easy to 'remote control' from the Logic3 dock. Not used the video, but I didn't buy it for that.
As a music player, thoroughly recommended...
By jrhartley
It never ceases to amaze me the amount of apple devotees in the world. Having bought a G4 Cube which didn't work out of the box (and having to speak to the head of Apple Europe to actually get them to refund me as opposed to provide a replacement as they wanted to) I was hesitant about buying an ipod. Sure, they look cool and you can get your name etched on the back by a laser, but would it work. So many people I knew had them and were telling me how great they were, I figured this had to be something that apple had completely cracked the market on.
Unfortunately not. The first thing is that the hard drive speed means that if you, for example, rip one of you DVD using a program like Videora, you get a lot of pauses and stutter. It's very hard to watch a film without the image stopping and the audio carrying on, then the film catching up again, and so on. So its not ideal for watching films on the go.
Then there is the issue regarding the sound occassionally just shooting up to maximum without you actually touching the controls. Then the times that you can't actually turn your ipod off as the HDD is just spinning aay and you have to hard reset it. This is before you start using the clunky itunes software to load your music onto the thing (tip - don't - use Winamp instead, its far less resource hungry and means you don't have to install YET ANOTHER media player to support your ipod.
Lastly, the tight bods at Apple don't even include a UK adapter in the box - so that's another £20 which I think just says it all. People I think cling to that hippy, small guy vs. microsoft image of Steve Jobs and Apple. The truth is, they are just two massive global corporations who want your money, and Apple has worked out if something looks cool, people get irrational and pay more than they have to for it.
By Andy W (London)
I'm very impressed with my new ipod video.
The sound quality is good and the video quality is actually pretty amazing so watching a film on a long train journey or flight is very easy and enjoyable (You can even read subtitles)
it would have got 5 stars from me except for Apple being notoriously tight again. Mine was a gift but had it not been I would have been seriously annoyed at having to shell out for all the extra bits that you do really need - a mains adapter for one! a dock, a case (very easy to scratch) etc etc
If your video playback freezes and loses sound (as mine did) it is simply because the fimware v1.1 has a glitch in it, to make it all perfect again simply downgrade your firmware to v1.0 (google it to find out how)
By Deepayan Basu Ray (Brighton, UK)
I've had this iPod for a week now, and it has been an experience of two halves.
The Bad Stuff:
The iPod 60GB has some seriously picky firmware, and will more often than not give you a headache to install. Unfortunately for me, I had to re-install Windows XP - not as hard as you think, but tedious nonetheless. Once that was done, everything finally worked, the iPod was recognised on the computer, and things were starting to copy over... or so I thought. I experienced problems with downloading photos from my camera (a soft reset fixed that problem), and have yet to figure out how to copy over music videos onto the unit. Oh yeah, and it scractches a little bit too easily.
The one beef I have is the ridiculous strategy to make every bit of essential kit as a separate accessory. You'd think for £260, you'd at least get an AC Charger... this is just taking the piss.
The Good Stuff:
It's a great little machine once you get all your tracks on there. Playlists are easy enough to use, and the sound quality is great. As a jazz musician, I have some pretty high standards, and this one has met nearly all the expectations.
Recommendations: Wait a bit to see if the firmware has been dealt with. If you are comfortable tinkering with your computer, go for it. Once the initial technical problems are overcome, this machine promises to be worth the money.
By C. Hatfield (Leafy Warwickshire)
Based upon several weeks/months of use of both the 60GB Ipod and Creative's Zen Vision M, I offer the following summary of my personal opinion..
What Apple does better:
Click wheel ease of use - less (over) sensitive than creative Vision M pad. More intuitive controls.
Bigger choice of accessories.
Styling.
Bigger disk capacity (creative only offer a 30GB version)
What Apple does worse:
Software is not as good. Nothing to convert videos to a suitable format. Software for auto naming of tracks and conversion of a lot of CD's to MP3 is not nearly as intuitive.
Screen not nearly as good.
Where I can't split hairs:
I found the sound quality and battery life to be comparable.
Both (once you've got used to them) feel good to use.
Both suffer appallingly from scratches. The ipod came straight out of the box into an iSkin protective case and it marked on the 'shiny side' immediately. God alone knows how!
Try them both before you buy to see which you prefer to operate, but note that the computer software that comes with the creative product is superior. You pays yer money......
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